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September 03, 2009

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TDK

Not that I fundamentally disagree with you but a high profile failed attempt to prosecute - say the case gets thrown out - might play better than a zero profile story about freedom of speech being utilised again.

Unfortunately I doubt the Dutch authorities have my plan in mind.

Dom

"I doubt the Dutch authorities have my plan in mind."

They might. I mean, they may just think this is the best way to get rid of the hate crime laws. The hypocrisy is just a little too blinding. Also, when the original complaint was brought, the authorities could have dismissed it the same way they dismissed complaints about the motoons -- the race was not insulted.

Noga

Holocaust denial is not just a matter which should concerns Jews alone. It is an offence against recorded, thoroughly researched and undeniable European history. It's not just an offence, it is a lie, a betrayal of knowledge and truth. It is a totally different matter to the Mohammad cartoons, which insulted people's feelings about their religion. A parallel case would have been if people published cartoon about religious figures or holidays sacred to Jews.

In other words, it's not the cartoon's offensiveness to Jews that should concern Dutch authorities but the injury done to the historical records. Prosecution is not going to redress the problem. Massive educational effort might. But educational exertion probably takes up more effort and money that the Dutch are willing to allocate to the matter so they are trying to do it on the cheap.

Mick H

Of course you're right Noga, but I doubt that education will do much good in this case.

DaninVan

Man, if telling 'the big' lie' were a criminal offense, there'd be a world wide shortage of politicians.
Go after the pukes for slander and libel in Civil Court; sue the bastards for millions ($6M sound right?)

TDK

"Holocaust denial is not just a matter which should concerns Jews alone. It is an offence against recorded, thoroughly researched and undeniable European history."

Well yes but who determines what the truth is.

We live in an era when Russians (despite mixed noises about Katyn) deny their joint responsibility for the destruction of Poland; Turks deny the Armenian massacre and Hamas promote the Protocols of Zion. What's your plan to correct the errors of the Russian government, Turkish government or Hamas?

I would rather accept that historical truth was not a competency of the state and trust that truth will emerge through the free interaction of people. If it is the state's role to reinforce truth then you give sanction to Hamas to teach children that the Holocaust is a fabrication. You give sanction to the Turkish authorities to lock up people who slander the state.

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