Except for the Gharqad Tree

Christianity isn't the only major religion to be conducting a debate about the extent to which the holy scriptures should be regarded as truth or as metaphor. Thanks to MEMRI we're able to see a debate (clip 859) broadcast last month on Al-Majd TV, with former Jordanian minister of religious endowments 'Ali Al-Faqir and Jordanian professor of religious law Khaled Al-Qudha.

The scripture in question is the hadith where the Prophet states:

"Judgement Day will come only when the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, until the Jew hides behind the tree and the stone, and the tree and the stone say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' - except for the Gharqad tree."

As these are the words of the Prophet, there's no doubt in the minds of the learned gentlemen that this will indeed come to pass:

Khaled Al-Qudha: The decisive battle between the Jews and us will take place on the Jordan River, Allah willing. This is inevitable. This is a hadith of the Prophet, who does not talk idly.

Host: Did the hadith relate to the battle's outcome as well?

Khaled Al-Qudha: Of course. "Until the Jew hides..." - because, as is well known, the Jews only fight from behind walls, when they are hiding. They don't fight face to face. That's why the tree and the stone will talk and say things.

Host: The hadith says: "The Muslims will kill them..." So this will be a victory of the Muslims.

Khaled Al-Qudha: Yes, and an overwhelming defeat for all the Jews, Allah willing. And this is not at all difficult for Allah.

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This battle will take place. It is inevitable. Even if we go to Oslo, and so on, the battle must take place. The Jews know this, and that's why they plant a lot of Gharqad trees. They know the hadith.

'Ali Al-Faqir: They surround their settlements with Gharqad trees.

That explains all those Gharqad trees, but what of the stones and trees talking? Is this to be interpreted literally?

'Ali Al-Faqir: One may ask: "How can a tree possibly talk? The hadith means that we should fight them with sticks and stones." This is not true. We either accept these things as fact or as a metaphor. If you cannot accept it as a fact then it's a metaphor. As long as it is impossible to accept the facts...

But brothers, the Prophet has told us that the time will come when man will talk without using his voice - the cell-phone, the cordless phone. This cordless phone - where did it come from? From the earth. Plastic comes from petroleum. The wires, the iron, and the copper – where do they come from? From the earth. Furthermore, some communication devices are now made of wood. It is not impossible that "the tree and the stone will speak" refers to the advanced scientific instruments that warn you about people. Today you have, for example, early warning stations in Sinai. Early warning stations exist in the Golan. They give the Israelites information about the other side's movements.

Host: Sir, this is if we interpret (the hadith) metaphorically. But isn't it possible that the tree and stone will actually talk? That the tree itself will talk, and the stone itself will talk?

'Ali Al-Faqir: Sir, it has been proven scientifically that the trees and the stones have languages of their own. But we don't have the ability to invent the instruments that will convey the tree's voice and the stone's voice to us.

Science has progressed so much that there are instruments that are placed in gardens. The plant produces certain waves, which are received by the instrument, and the plant says: "I am thirsty, water me, I am sick, heal me."

Comments

[Hannah]

Hello,

I just wanted to say what about the devices used at night? To see in the dark? These allow vision, and what about heat detector machines? Where it can clearly be seen where a person is, even behind stone walls and wooden furniture?

This is what came to my mind and God Knows Best Swt.

[Firdaus De La Fuente]

I could say nothing more about those explanations. In my opinion, it best explains and proves the truth of Islam. Everything that has been sent to Muhammad the God`s Prophet is definitely not a lie.

The hadiths can either be explained in the aspect of science and to be excepted wholeheartedly as there is nothing impossible to happen. It just depends on one`s principle. Besides, it also explains the intelligence and the highly IQed possession by the Prophet SAW. Everything he said can best be comprehensible in all aspects whether scientifically through his excellent metaphors or can be accepted just as it said.

This is a great information. Now I know that Jews are actually cowards. But however I am impressed with their efforts of creating their own civilization, through their research on Rasulullah SAW`s hadiths. Why can`t the Muslims who r obviously his followers to make The Prophet as an example for us to follow so that we can create our own civilization with Allah SWT`s blessings?

There is only one answer, -no unity among the Muslims....

[asdaw]

What a utter load of crap. I guess the world is flat too?

[Dan]

It's funny but the only people who claim "the jews are cowards" are those who actually have no experience in fighting in them. Please read histories of any of the Arab-Israeli wars. In almost every single encounter of face-to-face combat between Jewish and Arab soldiers (with perhaps one Egyptian armored division in the beginning days of the October war could be construed as an exception), the Jews have held their ground and advanced, and the Arabs have fled. Fled - often abandoning their positions under not so heavy fire. Fled - even though they usually numerically had a great advantage over the Israelis, and with a weaponry advantage as well. So in terms of bravery in face to face combat the Jews have outdone the Arabs in almost every single encounter. It's incredible how purposefully ignorant many people are. "The Jews, knowing this hadith, are planting many gharqad trees to protect them". As Jews do not believe in Islam, they most certainly don't believe in this Hadith and I guarantee you that 99.9% of Jews have no idea what this tree is, except for some academics - and people who like to surf weblogs on the outer realm of sanity.

[Saladin]

Dan, that might have been when Israel had superior means of intercepting and doctoring messages to/from the war. But Hezbollah's relative victory in Lebanon shows that the tables are now turned. Phosphorus bombs, DIME weapons and fletchettes are hardly weapons of bravery.

Saladin.

[Neo]

Saladin.. you are right, I couldn't agree with you more.

[Behnam valipour]

Are you all seriously ok with killing a whole group of people because of their faith? Only a wolf thinks as such.

[Behnam valipour]

Same goes for a Jew that wants to kill all Muslims.

[karal Musti]

But Jews don't want to kill all muslims. Except perhaps the odd psychopath. By this measure, a clear majority of muslims are psychopaths. This, of course, is not true but they certainly believe and act as if they are.

[PH.D in REALITY]

You Muslims are full of hate and lies.
This scripture quoted above shows it very clearly.

It can best be ascertained that Islam is the religion of the devil. Muslims do not worship the same God as Christianity or Judaism, but rather worship a false moon god. The words in the Koran show they are diametrically opposed to Christianity and Judaism. They hate God's Chosen People, the Christians and the Jews.