The Anti-Christ

A robust and plain-speaking protest, as befits a great democracy? - or something a little more disturbing? From yesterday's anti-Obama demonstration in Washington:

[Photo: lgf]

More photos here and here (via). Don't miss this one - "When we smell the burning flesh from the ovens it will be to [sic] late for us all"

Comments

[fk]

Pretty disappointing post. I've been hitting you daily for years - thought you had more sense than this. Feel like I've wasted my time reading you now. Do me a favor and elaborate a little - do you honestly feel that a few hysterical placards represent the righteous ambition of the 2-million strong protest? Or are you just taking a little oh-so-sophisticated cheap shot at the common American?

[Froward]

http://reason.com/blog/show/136041.html

The overwhelming majority of the people who showed up are normal people, not crazies or paranoids or conspiracy theorists. Their supporters and friends who did not show up are even more overwhelmingly normal and sensible.

The numbers are so large that you can't get away with lying about them. Outside of a few enclaves on the coasts, everybody with half a dozen friends knows at least one.

This is all enormously fun to watch.

It'll be a lot less fun when the GOP retakes congress in 2010, because they'll screw it up just as badly as they did last time.

For furriners, 1992-1993 was last time the Democrats got enough power to do whatever they wanted. They promptly alienated so much of the country, so aggressively, that they got hammered in the midterm elections of 1994, leaving the GOP controlling Congress (badly, for the most part) until 2006.

[Mick H]

I really don't think there's any doubt that there's a whole load of deeply scary sentiment being stirred up by the likes of Glenn Beck at the moment. Why so defensive and touchy about it, fk? Aren't these things worth a mention - or is any negative comment about the US just a "cheap shot"? Are you really that thin-skinned?

And in case it's not obvious, no, this wasn't an attempt at a balanced overall assessment of whoever showed up.

[rh]

"Two million people"? "The numbers are so large..." Try again.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/size-matters-so-do-lies.html

First a figure of 1-1.5 million was invented from whole cloth and attributed falsely to ABC News, then that already invented number inexplicably expanded to 2 million, and everyone started repeating it. Neither has any real source behind it, and the DC Fire Dept's estimate was 60-70,000. There were more people at multiple college football games across the country on the same day.

[Hanoi Paris Hilton]

Yeah, I second the emotion of fk.

Cheap shot, Mick, you don't friggin' get it and this wasn't a plastic fantastic event somehow conjured up by the Fox-Limbaugh axis of evil.

Noteworthy also is that there wasn't a speck of trash or litter left on the Mall when the human tide receded yesterday. Maybe that's just more evidence, though, of Nazi-indicative anal fixation?

The meme now being hyped by the Obamazoids is that any criticism of The One is ipso-facto racist. Oh, OK.

[Mick H]

There wasn't a speck of trash left on the Mall? What??? What kind of point is that?

Do you think the Obama as Anti-Christ poster wasn't there maybe? Photoshopped? And the one about the ovens?

But at least they pick up their litter.

[Hanoi Paris Hilton]

ref: "not a speck of trash".

The point is that there are those who wear their "___ (insert species of wet here) for social responsibility" armbands and sign the right petitions; and there are those who internalize and routinely act upon their social responsibility agenda.

Regarding the "antichrist" poster, firstly, do you think this really was indicative of where the crowd was coming from? And second, is it completely unimaginable that the appalling and hypnotic masscult around The One perfectly epitomizes, for a non-Nazi, non knuckle-dragging Christian believer (which I'm not), both the symbolic and the functional realities of the Antichrist?

[Mick H]

Well, I admit I didn't expect a defence of the Antichrist poster. You got me there.

[Hanoi Paris Hilton]

Well fine, so long as we remain friends. Among other serious intellectuals, Dostoyevsky certainly gave considerable thought to who and what comprised the AntiChrist.

At minimum I'm a great fan of your urban waterfronts pix.

[Abandon Ship!]

I don't think this is any worse than the Bush = Hitler type stuff the loony left have been pushing for the past decade.

[Mick H]

Glad you like some of my pix, HPH.

I don't think she's quite Dostoyevsky, though.

[Hanoi Paris Hilton]

Speaking of Fyodor, I just saw a posting describing Van Jones, who went under the Obamabus last weekend, as the "first-ever communist Czar".

[fk]

Really really disappointing. Defending your cheap shot with false accusations? Ad-hominems? Reflexive anti-Americanism? Wow ... but thx for elaborating - honestly, I believe you. It's really true though - you don't get it ... your whole Glen Beck rant shows it. Glen Beck is utterly irrelevant to believers in small gov't and the end of Washington corruption. Seriously, you just don't get it. I appreciate your pics and the barbarian watch and your rational view on the art world. Love your links. But this post was a nadir. I can live with it tho'. Keep on keepin' on.

[Hanoi Paris Hilton]

Yo, Mick...

You should be happy that even when you've truly madly deeply missed the boat, dropped the ball, dumped reflexively on the stupid Yanks, and acted out like that unbearable twit David Letterman doing his too clever by half number on Sarah Palin, your loyal readership still loves and forgives you.

[SnoopyTheGoon]

HPH,

You seem to be too riled by nothing more than photos. Which, in most cases, seem to tell the naked truth. How do you derive from this that Mick is "dumping on the stupid Yanks" is unclear.

That some of the Yanks, as some of any other people, are stupid, is a fact you have to learn to live with by now. And not getting your knickers bunched because of seeing some examples.

Well, some choice examples, I have to say...

[DaninVan]

In defense of M.H. (playing Devil's Advocate here)moronic behavior of ANY stripe deserves to be critiqued. Eg. Hollywood types opining on political matters because they've got the soapbox, not because they're PoliSci graduates. (Not that a PoliSci degree is any recommendation...)

[TDK]

I don't think there's a particular problem highlighting crazies but let's compare the wider picture.

Zombietime shows pictures of demos which often are also covered in the MSM. Zombie shows us the crazies the MSM seem to always crop out. That is, the blog gives us something denied in the MSM.

In this case the MSM already are describing anyone who protests as being racist or extremist and either showing no pictures or highlighting the crazies. Glen Beck is a lonely exception.

Whilst Beck's not to my taste, when faced with a media narrative that says you either agree with Obama or you're a racist, I find myself warming to Mr Beck.

[TDK]

Perhaps this is of relevance

[TDK]

Damn!

http://www.reason.com/news/show/135735.html

[naked celebrities]

They don't believe in Christ. How they can believe in Anti-Christ?